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Tuesday, August 2. 2005Santorum: the pursuit of Happiness harms AmericaRick Santorum says that the "liberal" view of freedom is "not the kind of freedom our founders envisioned." Elaborating, he says "It is an entire culture that focus (sic) on immediate gratification and the pursuit of happiness and personal pleasure. And it is harming America." "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness." (emphasis ours) Oh, and of course he blames our country's divorce rate on "the left." Even though the divorce rate in America is actually highest in the "Bible Belt"--hardly a bastion of liberalism. This is a sitting United States Senator arguing that our founders were wrong in their belief that we are all entitled to the "pursuit of happiness." In the same breath, he says he knows what those same founders envisioned for this country. Honestly, we wish that there was something funny about this. There isn't. Tags:Santorum, Rick, Politics |
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It is really hard believing that Santorum has a Catholic education considering his inability to attach his brain to his mouth when speaking.
What they really want is to be free-from anything they don't like.
A good confiscatory tax rate above what's needed to survive should do the trick...
Not to mention taxing estates substantially so we have fewer of those binge-drinking Hummer-crashing sybarites spending Daddy's inheritance...
....huh? what? He isn't in favor of those?
The reason the divorce rate is higher in the Bible Belt is because they look to the Blue States for guidance and we fail them. The reason it's lower in the Blue States is that we have the Red States moral probity as an exemplar.
If that doesn't seem to make sense to you, think of it this way. When Chelsea Clinton was growing up, Reagan and Bush were presidents and she came out ok. But when Noelle Bush, Jeb's daughter, was a young kid, Clinton was in the White House and she turned out to be a junkie.
In short, liberals set bad examples which corrupt conservatives. But conservatives set great examples which helps liberals from falling into evil.
(not to rightwingers and others who are humor impaired: the above is satire.)
Let's hope he doesn't introduce a bill against breathing and eating, lots of us enjoy that, too.
Running for the GOP Presidential nomination is work--hard work!
Would you like to spend three years talking like an absolute imbecile, putting your forefinger to your lower lip and going bububububububub every time someone asks you a question about public policy?
Remember the constituencies he's trying to win over.
If Santorum understood the concept of "love," he'd understand you can mandaate or legislate "responsibility." I attend to my family not because I have some conservative-demanded "responsiblity," but because I love my family, and it gives me pleasure to see family members (and neighbors, and my community) grow and become happier. If I no longer love them, why should I inflict myself onto them?
This is typical claptrap of inarticulate "conservatives" who have no philosophical basis for their utterings, living as they do in the comfortable bosom of "beliefs" instead of the difficult human obligation of REASON.
Anyone with half a brain realizes that Santorum is an idiot, but unfortunately the conservatives see him as their idiot.
GOP idiots vote Republican even if they can't stand whose on the ticket. They can't think for themselves, rather letting Fox News, Rush Limbaugh, and their local preacher do all their thinking for them.
The Democrats were so spineless in '00, the only candidate against
Santorum was a cowsuit-wearing Libertarian named John Featherman. You can guess how well he did.
Casey is not much better; a pro-life Democrat who believes that because his daddy was a former governor that he is entitled to any office he wants (kind of like Al Gore, sadly).
But it's lesser of two evils.
For some reason, Pennsylvania seems to crank out politicians and wannabes who suffer from severe mental illness. Santorum is one, along with former Congressman John Lawless, and Republican bastion of morality Tom Druce, who killed a man in a hit and run crash and lied to cover it up. After years of appeals he's finally in prison.
http://freethought.mbdojo.com/foundingfathers.html
http://dim.com/~randl/founders.htm
Not only did the founding fathers not want Christianity and clerics to have power or influence in the government, most of them professed to be deists and did not want to associate with any theistic religion and they most definitely mistrusted, almost to the point of hatred, Catholicism!
- Badtux the Snarky Penguin
If we took his line of thinking of the Clinton's vs. Bush's liberal win
(and I'm not kidding around!!!!!)
The Constitution was not written to save men's souls. It was written to save them from people like Rick Santorum.
"Divorce rates are higher in Bush country haha"....... Great job, Sherlock. Perhaps it's because Red America chooses to visit a J.P. or Minister to make it legal instead of just shacking up.
Ah, yes, i can see it now, little 6 year old girls dreaming of the day a nice boy asks them those words... "Honey, will you move in with me??"
NICE DEDUCTION, TOOLBAGS
Nice try, but you cannot have it both ways!
Santorum should be a preacher not a Senator.
We were merely using the divorce rates info to illustrate the point that blaming divorce or divorce rates on liberals is ridiculous.
You seem to have missed that point.
Just in case you didn't realize...
Based on US Census Bureau data the "Percent of Households That are Married-Couple Families" really doesn't break down the way your point would require it to. For instance, this percentage is virtually identical for New York and New Mexico and with the exception of a few outliers (not you, Red Stater, rather numbers that don't line up with the group) everyone falls within a few percentages of the US average (50.2%).
On the other hand, you did seem to hit the nail on the head when it came to correlating Red States and higher divorce rates.
"Holding labor costs down" as Wal-Mart does is immoral. I don't want to insult pigs, but conservatives are greedy pigs.
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/03/opinion/03ghemawat.html?oref=login
Wal-Mart Watch today raises a disturbing question about the objectivity of the recent New York Times op-ed, "The Price is Right." Yesterday’s New York Times featured the op-ed by Pankaj Ghemawat and Ken A. Mark. Their pro-Wal-Mart thesis was that because the stores save low-income consumers money, the company shouldn’t reform its highly criticized business model.
Wal-Mart Watch reveals that "business consultant" Ken A. Mark lists Wal-Mart under his firm’s retail consulting services. Ontario government listings show Mark as Managing Director of the Martello Group in London, Ontario. The Martello Group Web site claims, "We have a singular focus on our clients' top and bottom lines." And seven Wal-Mart projects appear on the Martello site, including "Wal-Mart Strategy."
Wal-Mart Watch Executive Director Andrew Grossman asks, "Wal-Mart is known for its lowest common denominator approach to business. Have they now also falsely represented their business consultant to the editorial page of the New York Times? We call on Wal-Mart to fully disclose their business and financial relationships with the authors of this piece and others writing ostensibly objective analyses."
Just because, say, MoveOn.org hires someone to write a scathing article about Pres. Bush doesn't necessarily mean the claims are untrue or meritless simply on the basis that MoveOn.org has a motive counter to that of Pres. Bush.
When did the merits of an argument become less important than the biography of its author?
NO. I quit shopping HelMart a couple of years ago. Greed to the max. Unionize? Hell NO, we'll close the damn store down and put you all out of work. And they DID.
Why aren't conservatives screaming bloody murder because their taxes have to make up the slack? I'll tell you why... because, by and large, they don't engage their brains. They are followers, weak minded simpletons. And there’s lot’s of them.
And number 26, my dear - I think you just got elected to a leadership position in the group. Engage your brain before you speak…
We must stand out on a limb and be brave. We must conduct a political revolution if democracy is to retake its foothold in this country. We have to stop allowing our political parties to appeal to the center at election time and then show thier true radical selves once they have the power. And believe me, once the democrats take office again, they will do it too.
the choice appears to be our gun rights or our social rights, and no matter how you cut it, it adds up to "police state" .. the Repubs are tyrants and the Second Amendment was designed as a *check* against tyranny (not a license to hunt ducks), which is why it baffles me that the Dems are determined to defeat it, but they sure as heck are..
i once saved my (same sex) lover's LIFE with an "evil" handgun.. one which i'd be forbidden to carry in my beloved home state of california.. or even *own* if the very people i helped put in power had their druthers, so for me voting Democrat is the very *definition* of "lesser of 2 evils" and election day basically amounts to deciding which rights to surrender. no such thing as "victory" in that situation..
but Libertarians tend to be anti-choice, so there goes that option... we need a "mind your own business party".. i don't need my government to protect my "safety", i need it to protect my *rights* ..
but oh, yes, uhhh.. Santorum, lol.. a national embarassment.. he does use proper grammar though.. has a leg up on Bushie in that dept.. how 'bout that "nucular option" eh? RIP that..
I don't know what Libertarians you hang out with, but, overwhelmingly, despite the fact the Libertarian Party takes no official position on the issue, Libertarians are more often than not pro-choice, by an overwhelming margin.
I think you must have had the misfortune of meeting up with some conservatives who have taken to calling themselves "Libertarians" now that conservative is becoming a dirty word. There's no shortage of them, unfortunately, but they aren't libertarians, regardless of what they call themselves.
"I don't believe people should be empowered to do what pleases them the most."
I hope he meant to say, 'I don't believe people ought to necessarily do what pleases them all the time.' Senator, what I just gave you is a statement in favor of personal responsibility. What you said is a statement in favor of an authoritarian government where a person is told how much to eat, how much to spend on a TV, how much sex to have, how many kids to have, whether mice are acceptable pets, whether 7th Heaven is required viewing, how many Hail Mary's to say before bed, and how many neighbors you have to turn in on charges of culturally unacceptable behavior before you get the Medal of Honor.
Perhaps if he spent his time, energy, resources and the efforts working toward bettering the condition of the average American citizen through the creation of a universal national health care system, keeping jobs in America in America, outlawing torture as a state sponsored policy, controlling fiscally responsible federal spending and a decreasing of the national debt, re-establishing the international reputation of the U.S. as a country of honest, just and caring people, ending a criminally inspired war of aggression for profit and imperialistic aims, responsible husbandry of the environment and natural resources of this country and an equitable system of taxation for ALL Americans, not just the ultra-rich, instead of pontificating on the role of government in legislating morality, he just might possibly muture as a senator instead of continuing to make an ass of himself, much to the chagrin of his electorate.
Most of the rest of the world would agree.
The question is, what business of that is the government?
Additionally, the high divorce rates in the Bible Belt are a direct result of lack of sex education. People get married YOUNG down here, then they divorce before they reach their 20th birthdays. There's very little concept of "preventing" pregnancy, and the correlation in domestic abuse and fundamentalist religion is really high - and since part of Pennsylvania is in Appalachia, you'd think Rick would know this.
By using birth control a person is taking responsibility for their action. This country needs to protect itselt from over population, like China.
Mr Santorum's WIFE should stop SEX completely, then maybe his stupid brain would begin to understand.
How could someone so lacking in ability to think and reason be appointed to any position.
So a man think, so a man does, watched men too many years to believe his statment " I don't believe in birth control", Then Mr. Santorum says " I will uphold the law",,,, Mr Santorum You just said a mouth full of BULL.
Marie Brandenburg
there is a natural / human tendency to revolt ... DON'T TREAD ON ME! ...
Only the individual has the right as well as the responsibility to Self-determine the most personal terms of
life and death ... To be or not to be sexual ... to be or not to be a parent ... to be or not to be alive beyond the point of personal Self-sufficiency. These rights are inalienable!
Religious zealots never want others to haved the right to decide for themselves, or live their own lives as they see fit. They'd have less followers pouring money into their coffers.
Oh, and when Rick talks about the founding fathers, I am sure he doesn't mean Thomas Paine, or Ben Franklin, or John Adams. he means Moses, King David, Noah... you know, the real founding fathers.
kids in $800,000 home in Virginia bought a cheap house near Pittsburgh then proceeded to fleece the taxpayers there of $100,000 to pay for cyberschooling of his children . Next up a $5 billion campaign contribution courtesy of your tax money. The energy bill contains loans and loan guarranties to Westinghouse (now owned by the British government) so that they can built 4 nuclear power plants in China. He can now brag how he brought
5000 jobs to Pittsburgh.
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